It was a little challenging to use the first time but being the only thing out there for basket illusion there are no options. I had used his other program SegTurn before so it was built on the same platform so that helped. Once you got the hang of things it was OK. When Andy first was building SegTurn he had asked me questions and recommendations and he used some of those in SegTurn and when he built Basket Illusion. As a matter of fact, I probably pushed him into writing Basket Illusion as I saw that SegTurn was set up close enough to be converted into Basket Illusion, and there was nothing else out there. Andy is a member over at SegmentWoodTurners.org so we talk occasionally on projects.