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Alan

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Good day....

Why do I keep getting this error code when LP sits for idle for a bit?
Thank you in advance.

Alan
 

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Hi Alan.
I have not had this error before. What one clue is the first part of the message regarding the rectangle of not having a width / height of zero.

I suspect you are getting the error because your laminate is made up of not wide enough pieces.

If you have the LP file please post it so we can take a look at it.
 
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Here is the file for the piece I am making that keeps giving me the error code.
I did notice that when I attached this file, then opened it up to make sure it was the right one, after clicking SW tab. the center blue strip should be at 1.00, not .500.
I also received an email from Lloyd about some things to check, but this morning I can't seem to find that email.
Thank you,
Alan
 

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I had this error coded waiting for me this morning when I went to use LP.
 

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- Have you tried loading another LP pro file and see if the error still occurs. I have not but will today.
- Have you tried deleting the LP file that is causing the error. I deleted it this morning and will let a different file sit idle today.
- If you were working on a new LP project, please describe what the settings were and what generation you were at when you let LP sit idle for a bit. Here is a screen shot of the settings. I was at gen1, then SW.
 

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Thanks for posting the file.
. Your file does produce the same error code on my pc.

This will have to be a issue for Lloyd to address.

I did notice if I click on the continue button in the error message box LP keeps running.
 
Playing around with LP. I rebuilt your project and made the 1/8" strip a bit larger. did the 1 Gen and then SW and things looked ok. No error.
Save the file , closed LP and opened the saved file and got the error message.

It is strange that things were fine till I saved the file and reopened.

Not sure if it is save issue, too thin of strips or what. I also made a similar design with 5 strip instead of 7 and things seemed to do ok in LP

This is definitely a problem for Lloyd to address. Beyond what I can do.
Sorry, could not help out.

If you and Lloyd come up with a solution, please post the answer.
Thanks.
 
Playing around with LP. I rebuilt your project and made the 1/8" strip a bit larger. did the 1 Gen and then SW and things looked ok. No error.
Save the file , closed LP and opened the saved file and got the error message.

It is strange that things were fine till I saved the file and reopened.

Not sure if it is save issue, too thin of strips or what. I also made a similar design with 5 strip instead of 7 and things seemed to do ok in LP

This is definitely a problem for Lloyd to address. Beyond what I can do.
Sorry, could not help out.

If you and Lloyd come up with a solution, please post the answer.
Thanks.
Thank you for trying it on your program and achieving the same results I get. If I click continue, everything works as it should.

I have another question as well. After spending many hours making and remaking my feature ring, the one that I sent to you, it came out looking awesome until I went to cut the segments from my strip of laminated wood. According to my design layout in WTP, my SEL should be 2.02". I am nowhere near that coming in it 3.00". If I cut my segment smaller, I'll lose part of the design. I don't see in LP where I can see/adjust the SEL.
Stuck again.
Turn wood they said.
It would be fun they said.
And it is. Just frustrating and hair pulling at times is all!
 
A question I can answer for you Alan.

The process should be is first design your vessel in WTP or SP. That way you know the SEL for the featured ring.
In LP the Repeating Unit (bottom part of the screen) should be as close to the SEL as possible. Basically the Repeating Unit is the SEL for the segment.

You can adjust the Repeating Unit by adjusting the First Cut Width in LP.
Using your LP file I changed the Repeating Unit to 1" produced repeating unit of 2".

I then adjusted the center strip (blue) to 1.250 inches. This adjusted the pattern so there is some walnut between the repeating pairs. That would accommodate the saw kerf when cutting the segments.

attached is changed file. I called it My SW designs 5-14 modified. Take a look and see if you like the pattern.
 

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A question I can answer for you Alan.

The process should be is first design your vessel in WTP or SP. That way you know the SEL for the featured ring.
In LP the Repeating Unit (bottom part of the screen) should be as close to the SEL as possible. Basically the Repeating Unit is the SEL for the segment.

You can adjust the Repeating Unit by adjusting the First Cut Width in LP.
Using your LP file I changed the Repeating Unit to 1" produced repeating unit of 2".

I then adjusted the center strip (blue) to 1.250 inches. This adjusted the pattern so there is some walnut between the repeating pairs. That would accommodate the saw kerf when cutting the segments.

attached is changed file. I called it My SW designs 5-14 modified. Take a look and see if you like the pattern.
I see now how you changed the Repeating Unit to 1" to get the 2" Repeating unit.
Up in the top left corner, to the right of Laminate Wizard, the Repeating Unit box, this is for the number of segments I want, right?
I do remember changing the blue center strip to a few different numbers, but I like the way it came out with the 1" blue strip removed.
Another thing I did, but shouldn't have affected the SEL, was I cut 4 .125" strips instead of 3.
I now have about 4" of laminated board that I'll find something for. And as I'm looking at this particle piece I attached, my OCD is not happy with it.
Patience.
Back to the drawing board.
Thank you so much for your response and help.
 

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I see now how you changed the Repeating Unit to 1" to get the 2" Repeating unit.
Up in the top left corner, to the right of Laminate Wizard, the Repeating Unit box, this is for the number of segments I want, right?
basically the number of repeating units is the number of segments you planned for the ring. So yes.
However, I sometimes will add a couple for spares. that is if I was doing a 16 segment ring I may make it 18 repeating units in LP.
Setting the number of repeating units in LP is used in the amount of material you need.
I do remember changing the blue center strip to a few different numbers, but I like the way it came out with the 1" blue strip removed.
Then 1 inch it is.
Another thing I did, but shouldn't have affected the SEL, was I cut 4 .125" strips instead of 3.
correct.
I now have about 4" of laminated board that I'll find something for. And as I'm looking at this particle piece I attached, my OCD is not happy with it.
Patience.
Back to the drawing board.
Thank you so much for your response and help.
Glad I could be of help.
If you found the email from Lloyd if you would not mind sharing what tips he was asking to do or check out in dealing with the error message.

Thanks. Your design looks great.
 
basically the number of repeating units is the number of segments you planned for the ring. So yes.
However, I sometimes will add a couple for spares. that is if I was doing a 16 segment ring I may make it 18 repeating units in LP.
Setting the number of repeating units in LP is used in the amount of material you need.

Then 1 inch it is.

correct.

Glad I could be of help.
If you found the email from Lloyd if you would not mind sharing what tips he was asking to do or check out in dealing with the error message.

Thanks. Your design looks great.
 
Good morning,
Should I send Lloyd an email, or will he see this thread?
I like the block I made as well, but I have a lot more learning to do. I can make some pretty awesome quilts though.
Keeping the .125" strips parallel @.125" when cutting them is a bit of a chore. Practice. Practice. Practice.
I see you are from AZ. Where at? I lived in AJ for 18 years. I moved to Missouri 4 years ago. I really miss AZ. Not the heat though.
Alan
 
I’m back. I’ve been helping some friends deal with a bad health issue and so haven’t been able to spend the time here like I try to do.

I’ll open you .Lam file and see if I can spot where the issue is. It isn’t evident from looking at your design where an error has occurred. This likely means that a change was made at some point in your design process that the software and the data file contains remnants of that change. If you were to print out the File > Print page and rebuild the project using the instructions on that page, you will no longer have this issue.

Without having you watched all of the steps you took to get to the final design, I doubt it will be possible to know what happened. Frankly, with the complexity of the code based on the gyrations that need to happen behind the scene, I’m surprised we don’t see this more often. But it’s been doing it for 20 years now so overall, I’m quite happy.

Some things, like the height of the rectangle aren’t saved in the data file. Yes, it should be and it’s on my todo list. It’s a long list, though, and not high on the list.

Lloyd
 
I’m back. I’ve been helping some friends deal with a bad health issue and so haven’t been able to spend the time here like I try to do.

I’ll open you .Lam file and see if I can spot where the issue is. It isn’t evident from looking at your design where an error has occurred. This likely means that a change was made at some point in your design process that the software and the data file contains remnants of that change. If you were to print out the File > Print page and rebuild the project using the instructions on that page, you will no longer have this issue.

Without having you watched all of the steps you took to get to the final design, I doubt it will be possible to know what happened. Frankly, with the complexity of the code based on the gyrations that need to happen behind the scene, I’m surprised we don’t see this more often. But it’s been doing it for 20 years now so overall, I’m quite happy.

Some things, like the height of the rectangle aren’t saved in the data file. Yes, it should be and it’s on my todo list. It’s a long list, though, and not high on the list.

Lloyd
Thank you, Lloyd, for getting back to me concerning this issue.
Sorry to hear about your friend's health.
I may try to print the file and rebuild it. But somewhere in my design I had the wrong SEL and now the feature ring blocks are too big for this project. The error code is more annoying than anything. Click cancel, and the programs moves on. No harm, no foul.
 
Lloyd.
For what it is worth I did another LP file with less laminate strip and get the same error.
The error shows up after one saves the project, close LP, start LP and open the file.

Don't ever remember seeing this error when running older windows XT, 10.
 

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It appears to me that this is a resource issue. I have been able to reproduce the error, but it took a long time. The error indicates that it has run out of memory. With all of the slicing and dicing of images, the amount of memory in use grows. This isn't an issue on my development computer because I have a LOT of memory. It could be an issue on a laptop, though, and based on what other programs are running and the amount of memory, it would happen a lot sooner.

I have just added code to better delete items when they are no longer needed and I'm guessing that will either eliminate or greatly reduce the number of times this occurs.

However, I'm leaving for vacation soon and I don't like making new releases when I'm not going to be in a position to fix issues that could arise as a result of the new code.

I will send both of you a copy of the updated code if you don't mind being beta testers. If something does happen, just delete the new version and install the one from the Downloads page.
 
It appears to me that this is a resource issue. I have been able to reproduce the error, but it took a long time. The error indicates that it has run out of memory. With all of the slicing and dicing of images, the amount of memory in use grows. This isn't an issue on my development computer because I have a LOT of memory. It could be an issue on a laptop, though, and based on what other programs are running and the amount of memory, it would happen a lot sooner.

I have just added code to better delete items when they are no longer needed and I'm guessing that will either eliminate or greatly reduce the number of times this occurs.

However, I'm leaving for vacation soon and I don't like making new releases when I'm not going to be in a position to fix issues that could arise as a result of the new code.

I will send both of you a copy of the updated code if you don't mind being beta testers. If something does happen, just delete the new version and install the one from the Downloads page.
Thanks Lloyd for looking into it. What you stated makes sense.

Would be happy to put the update through the ringer, so to speak.

I do most of my work on my new laptop. 16GB ram,
 
It appears to me that this is a resource issue. I have been able to reproduce the error, but it took a long time. The error indicates that it has run out of memory. With all of the slicing and dicing of images, the amount of memory in use grows. This isn't an issue on my development computer because I have a LOT of memory. It could be an issue on a laptop, though, and based on what other programs are running and the amount of memory, it would happen a lot sooner.

I have just added code to better delete items when they are no longer needed and I'm guessing that will either eliminate or greatly reduce the number of times this occurs.

However, I'm leaving for vacation soon and I don't like making new releases when I'm not going to be in a position to fix issues that could arise as a result of the new code.

I will send both of you a copy of the updated code if you don't mind being beta testers. If something does happen, just delete the new version and install the one from the Downloads page.
Thank you for getting to the bottom of the error code.
I would be up for trying the new beta update as well.
Thank you.
 
Lloyd:
Hope this will give a bit more insight.
Start LP, set laminate to 3 strips symmetric, gen1 and then SW design.
As long as I don't save the file I do not get the error message in LP.
If I save the file, close LP, restart LP and open the file, I get the error message..
selecting continue allows me to continue using LP. However the error message will pop up again.
 
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