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habibnejad01

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Hi, is there anybody on this board lives around Seattle in Washington. If so, is it possible to mentor me for couple of hours on segmented vise, thanks-Habib.
 

mfisher

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Sorry. I live in Arizona. I would suggest seeking out any local woodturning clubs for hands on. If it is questions on software or construction tips there are many here that can help you.
 

Bob Beaupre

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Hi Habib, welcome o the forum. You have any questions I'm sure there will be someone here to answer it
 

habibnejad01

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Hi Habib, welcome o the forum. You have any questions I'm sure there will be someone here to answer it
Hi, thanks. I try to turn inside a segmented vise, but no matter what I do it catches so bad that it scares the hell out of me. I have those carbide tips and fingernail gouge. the thickness of pieces are 3/8" and it is not possible to ride the bevel of the fingernail gouge.
 

habibnejad01

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Sorry. I live in Arizona. I would suggest seeking out any local woodturning clubs for hands on. If it is questions on software or construction tips there are many here that can help you.
I am trying to do that, unfortunately the club do not have any body that does segmented bowl.
 

Bob Beaupre

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Try using your carbide in a negative rack position. Turn the tip of the tool down. It will become almost impossible to get a catch. the tip of your tool will be below the top of your tool rest. I hope I explain this good enough. If not let me know and I'll make a sketch
 

Bob Beaupre

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Remember you put a lot of work in design, cutting your pieces and gluing them up. Take little cuts it's not a race to get it turned.
 

mfisher

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I second what Bob has said. A carbide tip tool are very forgiving. I use them for inside work.
 

Lloyd Johnson

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Habib,

Because you are just getting started, it is best if you choose a design that lets you develop your skills and avoid catches. A vase is a closed form meaning that the opening is narrower than most of the vessel and this shape greatly raises the possibility of making a catch. Whether you’re doing open or closed segments, an open form is a much better choice for getting into segmenting.

If you are going to make a closed form vessel, it is a good idea to do some turning on the inside as you go. Add a row or two and then use a bowl gouge. A fingernail gouge if a special purpose tool that is useful for adding sharp detail - mostly to spindles but it has very little usefulness to turning the inside of a bowl and will likely result in catches.

To turn the inside as you go, add a ring or two and then use the bowl gouge with the handle far to the right so that only the tip of the gouge will be touching the wood and you will NOT be riding the bevel at this point. Push the tip into the wood towards the base of the vessel, removing a very small amount of wood. This will allow you to remove the wood that will most likely catch and let you establish a surface that can then allow you to ride the bevel to let the bowl gouge work as it was designed..

If you are making an open segment bowl, you want to avoid any turning of the last row you added because it is not locked into place until you add a new ring above it and then it turns like a closed segment ring.

I’ve attached a picture of an open form shape that I do in my workshops that can be either a open or closed vessel and it gives you good turning experience and let you successfully complete a turning and this initial success is very important.

Finally, hang in there! Every one of us has been in the same spot as you are today. Fortunately, getting over the initial hump goes fairly quickly and you will soon develop the feeling that tells you that you are on the verge of a catch. Sometimes you can hear it coming, sometimes you can see where it will happen, but you can always feel that a catch is possible. When you get that feeling, stop, and consider the tools you have and which one can handle a difficult situation.

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